Smartstore violates nopCommerce license terms!!! Let's discuss
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Translated with translator. SmartStore to the CodePlex deactivation.
Update from the 07.08.2014
On Wednesday against 23: CodePlex those have disabled the SmartStore.NET project portal 15: 00, without previously notifying us. There has Anscheindend the nopCommerce-maker on the glue, constantly claiming he had won the case. Not at the moment, we know what CodePlex documents were made available, we are still waiting for an opinion. We strongly assume that SmartStore.NET will be online soon again, after those at Microsoft were informed by us that the process long not finished yet and that the partial judgment only says that we must convert to GPLv3, and even that is not even valid.
It is a very dirty game of nopCommerce makers who abuse the idea of open source. 08.08.2014 Meanwhile, Microsoft was informed by lawyer on the right stand in this matter.
http://community.smartstore.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-15-offizielle-stellungnahme-der-smartstore-ag-zum-rechtsstreit-mit-nopcommerce-in-sachen-gpl/
Update from the 07.08.2014
On Wednesday against 23: CodePlex those have disabled the SmartStore.NET project portal 15: 00, without previously notifying us. There has Anscheindend the nopCommerce-maker on the glue, constantly claiming he had won the case. Not at the moment, we know what CodePlex documents were made available, we are still waiting for an opinion. We strongly assume that SmartStore.NET will be online soon again, after those at Microsoft were informed by us that the process long not finished yet and that the partial judgment only says that we must convert to GPLv3, and even that is not even valid.
It is a very dirty game of nopCommerce makers who abuse the idea of open source. 08.08.2014 Meanwhile, Microsoft was informed by lawyer on the right stand in this matter.
http://community.smartstore.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-15-offizielle-stellungnahme-der-smartstore-ag-zum-rechtsstreit-mit-nopcommerce-in-sachen-gpl/
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Smartstore has reached a new service level for their "Gold Members". To get called "Gold Member" you need to pay almost 1200€ a year. What you get for is the most horrible support you may imagine. Nobody replies to your questions at all or it takes ~2 weeks to get a useless reply.
Questions in the their forum get deleted when they sound a bit critical.
Questions in the their forum get deleted when they sound a bit critical.
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It becomes more and more interesting or ridiculous (whatever you prefer).
Smartstore deletes all the posts showing their behavior.
From this thread http://community.smartstore.com/index.php?/topic/46156-smartstore-is-no-longer-available-on-codeplex-o/
Post: http://s2.postimg.org/6ijsed2e1/Post.png
Post deleted: http://s27.postimg.org/bajdwh92r/post_deleted.png
Smartstore deletes all the posts showing their behavior.
From this thread http://community.smartstore.com/index.php?/topic/46156-smartstore-is-no-longer-available-on-codeplex-o/
Post: http://s2.postimg.org/6ijsed2e1/Post.png
Post deleted: http://s27.postimg.org/bajdwh92r/post_deleted.png
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a.m. wrote:
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These guys continues to spam this Codeplex page, vote down possitive reviews and vote up bad ones. Please vote down these fake reviews
Now somebody (we all know who it is) again started spamming our reviews page on Codeplex. Please ignore and vote down these fake posts. They are also voting down good reviews. Why? How can it help them?
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These guys continues to spam this Codeplex page, vote down possitive reviews and vote up bad ones. Please vote down these fake reviews
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I've just read this post (http://community.smartstore.com/index.php?/topic/46156-smartstore-is-no-longer-available-on-codeplex-o/?p=261807) by some "lawyer" on smartstore community site.
nopCommerce license on codeplex (this page) has been just updated to The nopCommerce Public License Version 3.0 ("NPL"). And just to let you know there are a lot of other projects on CodePlex with similar custom licenses based on GPL, etc. What will you say now?
nopCommerce license on codeplex (this page) has been just updated to The nopCommerce Public License Version 3.0 ("NPL"). And just to let you know there are a lot of other projects on CodePlex with similar custom licenses based on GPL, etc. What will you say now?
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a.m. wrote:
Why is it changed until now?
I've just read this post (http://community.smartstore.com/index.php?/topic/46156-smartstore-is-no-longer-available-on-codeplex-o/?p=261807) by some "lawyer" on smartstore community site.
nopCommerce license on codeplex (this page) has been just updated to The nopCommerce Public License Version 3.0 ("NPL"). And just to let you know there are a lot of other projects on CodePlex with similar custom licenses based on GPL, etc. What will you say now?
nopCommerce license on codeplex (this page) has been just updated to The nopCommerce Public License Version 3.0 ("NPL"). And just to let you know there are a lot of other projects on CodePlex with similar custom licenses based on GPL, etc. What will you say now?
Why is it changed until now?
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a.m. wrote:
UPDATE: The same procedure has been repeated for SmartStore package on Microsoft web platform installer (WPI) - http://www.microsoft.com/web/gallery/smartstorenet.aspx
UPDATE: Several days ago I contacted legal department of Microsoft and shared the court decision document with them. And here we go. SmartStore project hosted on codeplex (https://smartstore.codeplex.com/) was unpublished today
UPDATE: The same procedure has been repeated for SmartStore package on Microsoft web platform installer (WPI) - http://www.microsoft.com/web/gallery/smartstorenet.aspx
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a.m. wrote:
So what does that means for the open source project that have on GitHub
https://github.com/smartstoreag/SmartStoreNET
If they not allowed to distribute SmartStore anymore, why is the code still up?
Can we still down load and use it if we put in the "powered by nopcommerce”
And big question is, did they payout ?
Its been sometime now since judgment.
UPDATE: And here we go. The court announced its decision today. We won! Right, it's over! Flawless Victory! Instead of just returning "powered by nopcommerce”, SmartStore AG is not allowed to distribute SmartStore anymore.
They will have to pay back all existing lawyer and court costs to Nop Solutions Ltd. And they also have to pay us ALL service and support fees they got since they offer SmartStore.
Of course, SmartStore can go to the next court instance. Let's see whether they will do it. But our lawyes and I are completely sure that SmartStore AG will lose again if they try. They can try to delay court results this way for several months more. But they should not do it if they want to get a chance for some deal with us. SmartStore has about one month to decide whether they will go to the next court instance. So now we just have to wait. Our further steps will depend on it.
I understand that this court decision can completely kill this company. We do not want it. We also do not want to harm existing users of SmartStore. nopCommerce and SmartStore could collaborate. Let's wait and see whether SmartStore wants it.
I also would like to thank the community and everybody who supported us. Thanks a lot! Special dedicated thanks to nopDynamics, our solution partner from Germany. Jorg (CEO of this company) continuously helped me with this case. Thanks a lot!
They will have to pay back all existing lawyer and court costs to Nop Solutions Ltd. And they also have to pay us ALL service and support fees they got since they offer SmartStore.
Of course, SmartStore can go to the next court instance. Let's see whether they will do it. But our lawyes and I are completely sure that SmartStore AG will lose again if they try. They can try to delay court results this way for several months more. But they should not do it if they want to get a chance for some deal with us. SmartStore has about one month to decide whether they will go to the next court instance. So now we just have to wait. Our further steps will depend on it.
I understand that this court decision can completely kill this company. We do not want it. We also do not want to harm existing users of SmartStore. nopCommerce and SmartStore could collaborate. Let's wait and see whether SmartStore wants it.
I also would like to thank the community and everybody who supported us. Thanks a lot! Special dedicated thanks to nopDynamics, our solution partner from Germany. Jorg (CEO of this company) continuously helped me with this case. Thanks a lot!
So what does that means for the open source project that have on GitHub
https://github.com/smartstoreag/SmartStoreNET
If they not allowed to distribute SmartStore anymore, why is the code still up?
Can we still down load and use it if we put in the "powered by nopcommerce”
And big question is, did they payout ?
Its been sometime now since judgment.