Sorry guys to have to mention this but nopCommerce is just a toy for kids!
Nice layouts and graphics but WAY TOO SLOW to be considered as a serious eCommerce platform.
Loading time is about 30 seconds, wowwww that is ridiculous!! who is going to wait that long to access it??
You have put so much shit on it that now it works as a turtle!!
Once loaded for the first time, yes it is faster, because it has loadaded into the Cache, but all first time users have to wait the miracle (if it happens) to see it for the first time.
Sorry guys, I can not consider it for serious business use in these conditions! Way too slow for confort!
In fact, I have not being able to use it for almost a decade due to being so slow! I have isntalled every version that you produce and I had to erase it all the time for the same reason.
Would the developers know about that or what is going on?
product is way too slow for business!
MVP
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@pjaramillo
If you are running it locally that might be the problem. Since visual studio is debugging/compiling the code when you hit f5, the start up time will take longer. If this is your case, once you deploy nopcommerce to a server it will go fast. If you need visual studio to run faster, you might consider buying a faster computer.
P.S. With my computer, which is not a very fast machine, it takes 30-60 seconds for visual studio to compile the code using the Express edition.
Once I deploy my site (shared hosting no dedicated RAM) my site loads in only 1-4 seconds. The nopcommerce team has put a lot into nopcommerce so try to say things nicely. I am so grateful that they are willing to give it to everyone for free! It is really an amazing platform once you learn how to use it. Keep trying!
If you are running it locally that might be the problem. Since visual studio is debugging/compiling the code when you hit f5, the start up time will take longer. If this is your case, once you deploy nopcommerce to a server it will go fast. If you need visual studio to run faster, you might consider buying a faster computer.
P.S. With my computer, which is not a very fast machine, it takes 30-60 seconds for visual studio to compile the code using the Express edition.
Once I deploy my site (shared hosting no dedicated RAM) my site loads in only 1-4 seconds. The nopcommerce team has put a lot into nopcommerce so try to say things nicely. I am so grateful that they are willing to give it to everyone for free! It is really an amazing platform once you learn how to use it. Keep trying!
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I just started using nopCommerce this year due to my new job and think it works great! I was first tasked with combining two different systems, nopCommerce v1.9 (used as a catalog only site) and some custom-coded CMS system that was not user-friendly at all. (icc.com, design is not mine)
v1.9 worked just perfectly! however, the two different systems proved a challenge of attempting to make it exactly the same. But I did do it and for a first-timer at nopCommerce I made a lot of changes of requests very easily.
Then our sister company needed a complete overhaul and redesign, the result? www.cablesys.com
nopCommerce works perfectly for our needs and is so easy on custom coding I came up with what I think is an awesome partly custom nopCommerce design.
now that I'm pretty much done with that project, am I now redoing my first project to be totally housed under nopCommerce. it works really fast on my end.
so, i'm not sure where you feel like it's loading real slow. i'm sure the other 590 users that are currently online can probably agree with us on that too. I'm still new to programming but nopCommerce is pretty damn easy to work with i think.
v1.9 worked just perfectly! however, the two different systems proved a challenge of attempting to make it exactly the same. But I did do it and for a first-timer at nopCommerce I made a lot of changes of requests very easily.
Then our sister company needed a complete overhaul and redesign, the result? www.cablesys.com
nopCommerce works perfectly for our needs and is so easy on custom coding I came up with what I think is an awesome partly custom nopCommerce design.
now that I'm pretty much done with that project, am I now redoing my first project to be totally housed under nopCommerce. it works really fast on my end.
so, i'm not sure where you feel like it's loading real slow. i'm sure the other 590 users that are currently online can probably agree with us on that too. I'm still new to programming but nopCommerce is pretty damn easy to work with i think.
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I have been learning MVC and eCommerce development on nopCommerce and you know what people ? It's really awesome eCommerce platform. With frequent new releases to make platform much better. They keep on improving performance of the Platform in each new release in every possible way.
I see every version lot more improved in terms of performance and new functionality. The system is a very good solution for small to mid-level businesses, if customized a bit than it can be even used for Large Associates or businesses.
So far where speed is concern, it does not only depends on the application it also depends on the Computer/System/Server configuration as well as internet speed.
i.e. If the server has very low configuration. If website has Images on any page with large size (several MBs). Also, if the server hosted has a slow internet speed or the user who is accessing internet has the slow internet connection. Even size RAM of the web server or SQL server could affect the performance of the IIS/Computer System. :)
Apart from which, I think in your case either the web server or the SQL Server is running on lower configured servers. Kindly note a system with proper configuration makes a lot difference on the performance or the load time of the website. In case if the nopCommerce website is hosted on shared server where the Load Balancing is not configured obviously its gonna take more time to load depending upon the server load.
It also can be possible if you tempered the website to achieve certain functionality regardless analyzing the impacts on performance of the website and impacts on existing functionality.
At last I would suggest whoever is commenting something about the system why not to just load 10,000 products and see the performance, repeat it with 20k, 50k and 100k and see the performance of the system and how much time it takes to load the products on page.
But anyways no Personal offense, despite of all this I strongly recommend users to do some genuine performance testing before posting negative reviews about the nopCommerce platform.
***** (I rate this platform with 5 out of 5 Stars. What do you say guys ?)
I see every version lot more improved in terms of performance and new functionality. The system is a very good solution for small to mid-level businesses, if customized a bit than it can be even used for Large Associates or businesses.
So far where speed is concern, it does not only depends on the application it also depends on the Computer/System/Server configuration as well as internet speed.
i.e. If the server has very low configuration. If website has Images on any page with large size (several MBs). Also, if the server hosted has a slow internet speed or the user who is accessing internet has the slow internet connection. Even size RAM of the web server or SQL server could affect the performance of the IIS/Computer System. :)
Apart from which, I think in your case either the web server or the SQL Server is running on lower configured servers. Kindly note a system with proper configuration makes a lot difference on the performance or the load time of the website. In case if the nopCommerce website is hosted on shared server where the Load Balancing is not configured obviously its gonna take more time to load depending upon the server load.
It also can be possible if you tempered the website to achieve certain functionality regardless analyzing the impacts on performance of the website and impacts on existing functionality.
At last I would suggest whoever is commenting something about the system why not to just load 10,000 products and see the performance, repeat it with 20k, 50k and 100k and see the performance of the system and how much time it takes to load the products on page.
But anyways no Personal offense, despite of all this I strongly recommend users to do some genuine performance testing before posting negative reviews about the nopCommerce platform.
***** (I rate this platform with 5 out of 5 Stars. What do you say guys ?)
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Works fine for us but then we know what we are doing.
Mind someone who has 'not being able to use it for almost a decade due to being so slow' might be having some temporal issues, since v1.0 release date looks to be 23/10/2008.
1 decade doesn't even come close to less than 4 years.
Epic troll fail!
HTH
Dave
Mind someone who has 'not being able to use it for almost a decade due to being so slow' might be having some temporal issues, since v1.0 release date looks to be 23/10/2008.
1 decade doesn't even come close to less than 4 years.
Epic troll fail!
HTH
Dave
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Hi all
This is an observation on the flow of this particualr thread.
I noticed slow running times too, but accepted that the demo was loading ok ( although it did load a bit slow for me) and
the live stores I tested (the five I looked at loaded quicker than the demo) loaded ok too - but I also accept that
later on that might be completely different as these things can be - so comparing demo and live was my guide
to possible online performance. I am hoping for good things.
It does run very slow in my version of VS2012, but, I am comfortable that it will run better once deployed online.
I must admit I did not know or really still do not know why it should run so slow offline using vs2012 because there
is not the limitation of connection and server traffic etc, but if it is the way that VS2012 compiles and runs then
nopcommerce cant be held to blame for that - or I dont think so anyway as the reasons could be too multitude to be able
apportion it to any single cause.
I do agree that the orignal posting doesn't really explain if it was local testing or uploaded to a server.
However, I saw no bad language within the post, and not really a bad attitude. I read a comment by someone who
rightly or wrongly was frustrated / disappointed by what they 'saw' / experienced.
That said, there are a number of postings throughout these forums talking about slow performance so that does indicate
a problem of a sort. The questions then are WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, and CAN IT BE SOLVED.
Now if we are acting intelligently we would try to analysis WHERE A PROBLEM OCCURS. Somebody attacking a comment
is not looking to stop or solve an issue in a positive way; such responses merely create unnecessary friction and
maybe a bad reputation because such negative responses reflect upon nopcommerce; after all this is collectively
'their' forum. Negative comments from users is to be expected - for both the wrong reasons and the right reasons
and are part and parcel of forum life. How such comments are dealt with is what makes a forum good or bad.
As forum members you have to learn how to deal with them so that the reputation of nopcommerce is enhanced - I am not
always seeing that here. @ppastor did a reasonable job and ought to be credited - @Tim2376 ok, but needs to remove the ps as that adds nothing to the debate and there is no sign of bad language shown in my version of the @pjaramillo comment. THe comment above t his one is nort even worth commenting on as it is so unnecessary and hostile and the moderator ought to be ashamed by it.
Slow because of VS.
If you are correct, and I suspect you probably are about VS testing, then if you were to add say a .txt file for VS users
advising them that testing performance via vs will be slower due to xxx reasons then you might stop comments about slow
performance and there would be no need for some moderators who are untrained in customer service skills to throw a tantrum because someone airs a view which differs from their own. Sadly, abusive forum moderators is becoming part and parcel of many forums and is turning many would be posters - and maybe users - away from some sites. The problem is caused by the moderators - and sometimes the users / posters - forgetting that they are communing with individuals.
Good day to you all
This is an observation on the flow of this particualr thread.
I noticed slow running times too, but accepted that the demo was loading ok ( although it did load a bit slow for me) and
the live stores I tested (the five I looked at loaded quicker than the demo) loaded ok too - but I also accept that
later on that might be completely different as these things can be - so comparing demo and live was my guide
to possible online performance. I am hoping for good things.
It does run very slow in my version of VS2012, but, I am comfortable that it will run better once deployed online.
I must admit I did not know or really still do not know why it should run so slow offline using vs2012 because there
is not the limitation of connection and server traffic etc, but if it is the way that VS2012 compiles and runs then
nopcommerce cant be held to blame for that - or I dont think so anyway as the reasons could be too multitude to be able
apportion it to any single cause.
I do agree that the orignal posting doesn't really explain if it was local testing or uploaded to a server.
However, I saw no bad language within the post, and not really a bad attitude. I read a comment by someone who
rightly or wrongly was frustrated / disappointed by what they 'saw' / experienced.
That said, there are a number of postings throughout these forums talking about slow performance so that does indicate
a problem of a sort. The questions then are WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, and CAN IT BE SOLVED.
Now if we are acting intelligently we would try to analysis WHERE A PROBLEM OCCURS. Somebody attacking a comment
is not looking to stop or solve an issue in a positive way; such responses merely create unnecessary friction and
maybe a bad reputation because such negative responses reflect upon nopcommerce; after all this is collectively
'their' forum. Negative comments from users is to be expected - for both the wrong reasons and the right reasons
and are part and parcel of forum life. How such comments are dealt with is what makes a forum good or bad.
As forum members you have to learn how to deal with them so that the reputation of nopcommerce is enhanced - I am not
always seeing that here. @ppastor did a reasonable job and ought to be credited - @Tim2376 ok, but needs to remove the ps as that adds nothing to the debate and there is no sign of bad language shown in my version of the @pjaramillo comment. THe comment above t his one is nort even worth commenting on as it is so unnecessary and hostile and the moderator ought to be ashamed by it.
Slow because of VS.
If you are correct, and I suspect you probably are about VS testing, then if you were to add say a .txt file for VS users
advising them that testing performance via vs will be slower due to xxx reasons then you might stop comments about slow
performance and there would be no need for some moderators who are untrained in customer service skills to throw a tantrum because someone airs a view which differs from their own. Sadly, abusive forum moderators is becoming part and parcel of many forums and is turning many would be posters - and maybe users - away from some sites. The problem is caused by the moderators - and sometimes the users / posters - forgetting that they are communing with individuals.
Good day to you all
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This is my first use of Nop and building ecommerced based sites. I thought as much when I first started using Nop In Visual Studio.
But on deployment to my test site, the speed of the site is fine. I have intergrated the NopCart into an existing system and set up a deadicated server using collaction. I'm currently testing transactional replication with over 100000 products 100488 to be precise but eventually using live replication constantly feeding products in and out (you know what I mean :)
The speed is good the only thing I have left to get my head around ASP.NET / MVC. blooming variables!
2 thumbs up in my op to the Nop team for devloping a great open source shopping cart =>
Just to say again I haven't timed the speed of product load but even in Visual Studio with 10,0488 its good. Ill time that tommorrow make a note of that!!
R
But on deployment to my test site, the speed of the site is fine. I have intergrated the NopCart into an existing system and set up a deadicated server using collaction. I'm currently testing transactional replication with over 100000 products 100488 to be precise but eventually using live replication constantly feeding products in and out (you know what I mean :)
The speed is good the only thing I have left to get my head around ASP.NET / MVC. blooming variables!
2 thumbs up in my op to the Nop team for devloping a great open source shopping cart =>
Just to say again I haven't timed the speed of product load but even in Visual Studio with 10,0488 its good. Ill time that tommorrow make a note of that!!
R
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@wertyuio1
Sounds promising - and if the above users problem is vs based then it supports the suggestion to add a txt file warning vs users that off line runs using vs may be slower for xx reasons?
@Tim2376 .. thank you for editing your post. As a hopeful user of NopCommerce but concerned by VS loading rates and reading that I would be encouraged by your revised post.
Cheers
Sounds promising - and if the above users problem is vs based then it supports the suggestion to add a txt file warning vs users that off line runs using vs may be slower for xx reasons?
@Tim2376 .. thank you for editing your post. As a hopeful user of NopCommerce but concerned by VS loading rates and reading that I would be encouraged by your revised post.
Cheers